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The Torke Pick

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I have been trying different picks, making my own from different materials, and modifying commercial picks for as long as I have been playing mandolin. I finally came up with something that I really like and so do a lot of my friends. I have given a lot of them away but so far I have resisted selling them. Each one I make takes 10 to 15 minutes of rather boring labor, a 75 cent Clayton pick, and probably another half a bucks worth of sandpaper. If I ever did sell them I would probably price them high enough so no one would buy them. Hopefully there will be enough information here so that you can make your own. Click the pictures for larger versions.

Skip the nonsense and go straight to the instructions (especially if you are inclined to argue, this is all just a bunch of opinion)

Points and Thickness
As soon after I started playing mandolin a little more seriously I took lessons with Jack Tuttle (footnote) and he had me using Golden Gate picks. It takes some work to learn how to drive a fat, round pick but it is worth it. The thicker pick was an obvious improvement on tone and control. When you drive the pick across a string you know when it is going to cleanly "snap." A floppy pick is just a little less predictable. I liked the rounded points but I thought that maybe they were a little too rounded. I like the sound you get when the pick isn't parallel to the strings. When the pick is too rounded I think it tends to slide over the string a little and make your note a little less predictable. I'm sure this is never a problem for the John Reischman (footnote) but I needed a little help. I reshaped them to a slightly sharper point, just a little bit more like standard pick. I think a slightly more pointed pick allows a little more forgiveness without compromising too much on tone.

A problem with reshaping Golden Gates was that they would be too small by the time I was done. The big Fender "dorito" picks were way to thin to mess with.

Edges
One of the biggest problems with the Golden Gates is that the edges are a mess. They just don't polish them like "the good old days", whenever that was. I would always spend 10 or 15 minutes sanding the roughness off of the edges. While doing this I discovered that I liked to have a little more of an edge on the pick. If you take a close look at the profile of a Golden Gate you'll notice that they have a very round edge, a little towards the the "square" side of a half circle. A thick Clayton is practically square with only the very edge taken off. I like an edge that is still convex, but that does come to somewhat of a point. I think that it snaps off of the string cleaner. Don't go too far though. A knife fine edge is another problem. It sounds thin and wears quickly.

Materials
I tried a lot of different material. Mostly I have modified commercially available picks. Most of the commercial picks are too small to work with or too thin. I think a thin pick leads to a pathetic little tinkley sound. You don't need to use the heaviest pick available, but a Fender medium is just no good. Enough said.

I have played with a few tortoise shell picks and they were always too thin (both physically and sonically). I recently got a thick piece from an old hand mirror. I made a nice thick pick from it, and I think it sounds worse than the plastic. There is too much "clatter" from the pick on the string, as opposed to the string vibrating. I was disappointed that I didn't find the "Holy Grail" of picks, but I'm glad that no innocent turtles will die because of me. Cow horn and bone aren't worth much either.

Eventually Gryphon started selling the Clayton picks. They have almost squared edges and are way too pointy but they make a good starting material. I've made picks out of the thicker triangle shaped picks that they sell. The thickest is the 1.9 (white, acetate) is my favorite. The the 1.52 (white, acetate) 1.52 Delrin picks also work great. I can't distinguish much different between them and the Acetal Polymer picks. They are apparently dyed after manufacture. When you take off the points and edge you get down to the "white" and the black ends up a very dark blue after sanding. The 1.20 (yellow/amber Ultem) is preferred by some of my friends. I think the 1.20 yellow picks look cooler, but they don't take or hold an edge the same way as the acetate polymer. I think they are a little bright and make alot of clattery sounds when they hit the strings.

Steve Clayton Says...
Acetal Polymer is a unique material among guitar picks, producing warm clean overtones, while holding up to the most demanding performance. All are white, making them easy to find when dropped on stage. Delrin XL is a very tough material. It produces a brighter sound than our Acetal/Polymer, but not as bright as Ultem Tortoise. Ultem closely resembles real tortoiseshell in sound, feel and color. This new space age material produces a clean crisp tone with limited flex. Unlike real tortoiseshell, the material will not fracture.

D'Andrea also sells a very nice 1.5mm Pro Plec pick (their website says it's celluloid but I don't believe it). It is a very attractive tortoise shell looking pick and has, by far, the nicest "factory" edge. If they were a little less pointy they would be just about perfect out of the box. The material sounds a little deader than the others (drop the different picks on a glass or stone table. Some "plink" and some "thud."), I don't know if that is a problem. It doesn't seem to affect the instrument tone as much compared to the effect the shape and edge have.

Grisman has a new pick. They appear to be the same material as the D'andrea noted above, but with the Grisman/Golden Gate rounded point. Nice finish and all, but a little round for my taste and this isn't my favorite material. Its a little softer and kind of dampend.

I work at Gryphon Stringed Instruments in Palo Alto on Tuesday evenings from 5-8. If you drop by and ask for me I'll show you how I make them. Maybe I'll even really do a workshop some day, although it's mostly just something I joke about.

Go to the Instructions


*Should it be legal to call it the "Torke Pick" when it is just a modified Clayton? John Kael of Roanoke and BluegrassLyrics.com fame says "no." But that is what everyone else that I give them to calls them. Maybe I'll get my 15 minutes of fame this way. Like, during a lawsuit or something. back

** Jack only uses mine now, and suggest the D'Andrea Pro Plec 1.5 mm to his students who want something "off the shelf." back

***John said I could quote him, he said "good pick." Really, you can ask him. I think he is going to stick with the "clown barf" Golden Gates that he had. Someone gave him a whole bag of them. I only had a few picks to give him. back

Jack teaches bluegrass guitar, banjo, fiddle, mandolin, and swing and old time fiddle. His site has a lot of great material. Gryphon sell great instruments and has a great repair shop. A great site for lyrics to traditional bluegrass songs.
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Last updated February 16, 2003